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desire to cut funding for pbs and its beloved character, big bird, of course. the obama campaign is out with a new tv ad going out with the line. >> gluttons of greed and the even genius who towered over them. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird, big third, big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> big, yellow, a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it'ses is me street. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> reporter: mitt romney taking on the enemies no matter what is next. >> and theysho pictures of corrupt financial figures and big board -- bird. the makers of sesame street are unhappy and asked the obama campaign to remove big bird and that they non-parse sap and don't participate in political campaigns. >>> wrapping up a campaign in loudoun county, and that is's huge focus. beth has more. >> reporter: michelle obama is just wrapping up her speech here. i don't know if we're going to get drowned out. but she came here to send a message. that time is running out and, if you want to vote in virginia, you must register by
was mentioned in the campaign. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love pbs. i love big bird. i look you too. >> somebody's getting tough on big bird. elmo, you'd better make a run for it. >> reporter: campaign surrogates keeping it alive in the fight over big government spending. >> he's taken the battle straight to "sesame street" and let wall street run hog wild. >> reporter: so was it a mistake targeting america's favorite yellow bird? >> he wasn't targeting. he was just pointing to one example. big byrd is pretty successful. >> reporter: but the truth is the show relies on less than 0.1% of federal funding from federal particulars. after the debate, some 17,000 tweets per minute came in about #bigbird. >> welcome to the middle class, big bird. despite or because of it big bird has helped the romney campaign to raise $12 million the $48 after the debate. >> how did you find out your name was mentioned in the debate? >> i got a million tweets. >> so you're on twitter. >> no, i'm a bird. that's how we talk. >> reporter: what's also talking are the sales here at sullivan's toy store in
. but since being mentioned in last week's presidential debate -- >> i like pbs. i love big bird. it actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> big bird has gone big time. from the campaign trail to network television and new a campaign ad. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. >> pbs reacted staying as a stated supporter of education, governor romney should be champion of public broadcasting. the sesame workshop has had enough of the political back and forth. today calling itself nonpartisan and issuing this statement. "we have approved no campaign ads and is as the general practice requested that the ad be taken down." obama campaign says it is considering that request but insist the topic is fair game. >> somebody is cracking down on big bird. he is going to bring down the hammer on "sesame street." it makes perfect sense. you want me to save big bird? >> obama traveling press secretary told reporters today, "there has been a strong grassroots outc
the weekend. >> amid romney's threats to defund pbs impacting the much beloved sesame street character has set off a debate. here's abc's reena ninan. >> reporter: big bird took the high road on "saturday night live." >> before you go, do you have any political statement you'd like to make? >> no, i don't want to ruffle any feathers. >> reporter: but plenty of feathers were ruffled after the campaign. >> i'm going to stop pbs. i'm going to stop all the things, i like big bird. i actually like you, too. >> making it for big bird. you better take a run for it. >> reporter: keeping the fight over funding. dmrp taking the battle stating from sesame street and letting wall street run hog wild. >> reporter: so was it a mistake targeting america's favorite yellow bird. >> it wasn't a targeting. it was points to one big example. >> reporter: but the truth is, the show derived less than 1.0% of funding. after that 17,000 tweets came in about #big bird. welcome to the middle class, big bird. big bird has help the romney campaign to raise $12 million. >> how did you find out your name was mentioned in th
this subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking oun our enemies no malter where they nest. >> please, god, just for a minute, shrumy, and you too, michael, be independent minded and answer this question. is that the right way to go in this crucial last month to be focusing on big bird? >> no, it's not. no, it's not, number one. number two, they're not broadcasting that ad in the battleground states at any heavy level. number three, they shouldn't. number four, we should be talking about who is going to save medicare not who is going to save big bird. >> well said. michael, i can't say it better. >> bob, one of the few times i will say ditto. >> okay. and the only caveat i offer here is that there is a way through really good sarcasm to make fun of the other side. franklin roosevelt, bob and i are experts at this, the franklin roosevelt speech he gave at the teamsters convention in 1944 about the republicans making fun of getting his dog a right on a ship somewhere turned the republicans into fools and that won him the election. sam roseman wrote that speech. it was a killer. this isn't being do
heard the comment that republican nominee mitt romney said about big bird and pbs, he would get rid of that funding. and they are trying to pull information from big bird, but he said he did not want to ruffle any feathers and he said he received a million tweets, but he said i am a bird, tweeting is how we talk. one funny moment, and he said who likes debates, and he said de-fishes. >> nice. they had to give the president some heat for what had to be a lack luster performance last week, and they had to have fun, and listen to how they portrayed the debate. >> the anniversary gift. i can't believe i forgot the anniversary gift. this is bad. this is very bad. okay. i was distracted by the mess i inherited from bush, but still i should have remembered our anniversary. >> apparently the other guy who plays romney has perfected romney's debate stair. >>. >>> rosie o'donnel is a big fan of honey boo boo and wants to buy her a house. boo-boo's family, the mom says she doesn't want fame to change the family and she doesn't want the house, and they said we don't want a house, but interestin
of the night's more memorable moments. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird. i like you too. >> reporter: ever since the gop nominee put big bird in his sights, the actor dressed up has appeared at campaign events. the obama campaign is trying to make the point slashing funding for pbs which makes up one-hundredth of the federal budget will do little to cut the deficit. >> somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. rounding him up. elmo's got to watch out too. >> reporter: but elmo is not tickled. sesame street's producers released a statement saying it's not taking sides adding we have approved no campaign ads and as is our general practice, have requested that the ad be taken down. republicans are now calling it the big bird backfire. >> i just find it troubling that the president's message -- the president's focus 28 days from election day is big bird. >> reporter: romney's advisors say it's a surprising tactic given what then-senator obama said in his convention speech in 2008. >> if you don't have a r
the subsidy to pbs and other things. i like big bird. i actually like you too. >> jennifer: that, ladies and gentlemen leads to our sixth and final mitt lie of the night so romney wants us to believe that cutting funds to pbs is going to fix the deficit. not true. in 2010, the federal government gave $300 million to pbs of course is not chicken scratch but $30300 million is about 1/100 of 1% of the total federal budget. one thing is sure, firing big bird sure ain't going to fix the deficit. as you can imagine romney's big bird dis has not gone over well with the residents of "sesame street" including elmo who sat down with this exclusive interview with our own brett ehrlich. shh, brett's talking now. >> listen, i know how you can lose a debate but what i don't know is how you can lose a debate to a guy who during that debate said that he wanted to cancel "sesame street." when i say i'm fond of someone i don't then vow to fire them. i wanted to talk to someone that this statement might hurt the most and for that, we tal
kind of attacking him for keeping talkingbout big bird and pbs. what do you make of where the obama campaign is right now? >> i make that the obama campaign sees an opening there. the question is every campaign, candidates stumble, openings come. the question is can you recover from your mistakes, can you seize the opening. president obama sees we're talking about the giant scope of the federal budget and governor romney mentions big bird and pbs. come on, he doesn't get it. that's what president obama is trying to say. he doesn't want to cut wall street, he wants to not hurt the rich people when it comes to taxes and he wants to beat up on big bird. what governor romney says, you saw him pivot again today, he says well, that's just one example but you have to give examples and you have to start making choices. we have to review everything and we can't keep from china. it helps both of them. conservatives love to hear their candidate beating up on pbs, on government subsidies, saying i'm going to look at everything and cut, and if you're obama and trying to reach those moderate subu
the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. i like you, too. >> somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. >> keeping the fight alive over government spending. so was it a mistake targeting america's favorite yellow bird? >> it was not a target. it was pointing to one example. big bird is pretty successful. >> the show relies on less than 0.1% of federal dollars. >> welcome to the middle class, big bird. despite or because of it, big bird has helped the romney campaign raise money. >> i got a million tweets. >> so you are on twitter? >> no, i'm a bird. tweet something how we talk! >> reporter: what is also talking are the sales here at sullivan's toy store here in washington, d.c., they say they have sold more big bird items than they have in the past, proving how profitable one yellow bird can be. >> incredible. besides pbs being this much of the budget and they did a poll that showed 70% of the country showed opposing de funding. poor big bird in the crosshairs of the debate. but we lover him in the overnight. >> we do. what is he doing? looking over your shoulder? >> no. >> we should b
pbs i like big bird. i even like you, jim lehrer, but i don't think you need the subsidy. obama campaign, seized on that. the president used that as a rip line to ridicule governor romney across the country. this morning they have a new ad about it. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, dennis kozlowski, i will criminals gluttons of greed and evil genius towered over them. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird. big bird, big bird. >> me, big bird. >> a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it is not wall street you have to worry about. it is "sesame street". >> reporter: that ad was out about couple hours, bringing out "sesame street"'s couldn't saying look at president obama has been talking about this. mentioned big bird eight times. elmo five times. zero mentions about libya and zero plans to fix the economy. this is going in a very interesting direction this morning. bill: back and forth we go. thank you, john. we'll follow the campaign stoplighter in iowa. martha: we'll talk about all that "sesame street" stuff later in the show. governor romney starting his day in th
"celebrity apprenticsandus. >>> first it was pbs and now nickelodeon. why the kids' tv network says mitt romney is dising children. it's one of the things we thought you should know, and you can join our conversation if you don't explode like steve on twitter. find us at @tamronhall and at @newsnation. this is my song of the day. humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty mutual insurance. responsibility. what's your policy? starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two aleve can keep pain away all day. back to the news. >>> if joe biden has a big gaffe, turns in a bad performance for some reason, which he shouldn't, this narrative just grows. >> it could be the other scenario, right? >> yes, it could be what happened in '04. the incumbent vice president out
's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> i'm going to stopt subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking on enemies no matter where they nest. >> with the presidential election four weeks away, there is new polling out. it shows the race between president obama and mitt romney closer than ever. tracie potts has more on that from washington. good morning. >> lynn, good morning. mitt romney is going to iowa today to a family farm before heading off to ohio where we'll hear his repeat his new campaign line. mitt romney has a new campaign line today. >> hope is not a strategy. >> reporter: we first heard it in the foreign policy speech monday. he argues, president obama's policies have made the world more dangerous. >> it's a risk of conflict in the region is higher now than when the president took office. >> romney promised to create one point person to deal with the middle east, arm syria's rebels, sanction iran if needed, expand the navy and push free trade. democrats aren't impressed. >> i'm a professor. he gave absolutely no specifics. >> polls are now split on romney's po
to pbs. >> the ad then praises romney for taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. the president is really hammering romney on this whole big bird comment. >> obama: you didn't know this but for all of you moms and kids out there, you should have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. >> although romney arguably performed better during the debate, he is real taking heat for taking on pbs. and plus many moms are saying they are not comfortable voting for romney when he wants to cut their kids' programming. insiders say the rom nis were incredibly frustrated when his campaign manager and then they stepped in to rework his strategy. back with more bill after the break. stay with us. ♪ how are you ever going to solve the problem if you don't look at all of the pieces? >>tv and radio talk show host stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, n
ending federal subsidies into pbs into what i think might have been an oj joke. >> for all you moms and kids out there, you could have confidence that finally somebody is cracking down on big bird. elmo has been seen in in a white suburban, he's driving for the border. >> okay, i'm sorry, i saw it a couple of times, i'm like did he say what? nch this morning the obama campaign is out amplifying the says my street not wall street adark. the ad is not going to air in a single battleground state, it's only being bought on national cable, so they tell me. take a look at it. >> bernie madoff, criminals, gluttons of greed and the evil genius who towered over them. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird, big bird, big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's "sesame street." >> it's six days later, the obama campaign seems to be looking back at the campaign and not able to turn the page after the debate. maybe it's part of the entire qualm pain conversation. you have to ask yourself, every time they bring up the debate
this week since the presidential debate. mitt romney said he would cut funding to pbs adding he liked big bird, but not at such a steep price. last night big bird appeared on "saturday night live" to clear the air. >> big bird, so how did you find out your name had been mentioned in the debate? >> i got a million tweets. [ laughter ] >> so you're on twitter? >> no, i'm a bird. tweeting is how we talk. >> our favorite 8-foot yellow bird kept it clean last night, adding he didn't want to ruffle any feathers. that is cute. >>> "american idol" is making its way around the country in an attempt to find the next best singer. >> while the show's judges have been getting a lot of attention, it's time to focus now on the talent. >> nancy parker has a look at this week's auditions in louisiana. >> she's christina and wonderful. >> reporter: a competition of chops. >> my style is like india arie meets james brown. >> reporter: they travel far and near to be the next "american idol." >> bow livia. >> i come to represent new orleans. >> reporter: this 25-year-old says she has the soul of new orleans,
, going after what he claims is romney's plan for $5 trillion in tax cuts and cuts to pbs to help close the deficits. >> for you moms and kids out there, somebody is cracking down on big bird. cracking down on him. elmo has made a run for the border. governor romney plans to let wall street run wild again, but he's bringing the hammer down on sesame street. >> president obama will continue campaigning in california today, with a star studded event in san francisco, including john legend and will.i.am. >>> meanwhile, mitt romney returns to virginia today as he laughs off what looked like an uncomfortable situation in florida. the republican nominee was taking pictures with staff at a restaurant in port st. lucie when one of the staffers wiped romney's face with a napkin. romney can be seen laughing off the situation, but appears to be a little uncomfortable. >>> prepare for a month full of debates. this thursday vice president biden and congressman paul ryan will face off in their first and only debate. next tuesday, the 16th, president obama and mitt romney will meet for their second d
, but there's something very serious about this issue. i mean, the "sesame street" programming, pbs programming has been in -- i worked in education for a number of years -- the gold standard, not just here in the united states, around the world, recognized as a gold standard in children's education. at a time when kids in our country, not enough of them can actually read proficiently, what sense does it make to cut? i mean, we're not going to balance that $5 trillion hole by getting rid of big bird. that's what i think part of reminding people about big bird does, how ridiculous the rhetoric from the romney/ryan campaign is, but also the idea that, so, you're going to cut something that we know is effective and works and helps our kids prepare for the future, but you're going to continue to give subsidies to big oil? that doesn't make sense. so, i do think that there is a seriousness to this conversation and i think biden is the kind of guy who can bring that right balance to the debate. >> all right, so, one thing in an interview, congressman ryan did talk about his nerves playing
. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney taking on our enemies no matter where they nest. >> now it's funny. >> politics. >> when talking about sesame street and not taxes, you know, foreign policy or, you know, what to do about the fiscal cliff, what kind of a campaign is that? >> well, this is -- so the gamut here, you mentioned, this is on cable tv nationally in some broadcast tv nationally and not in any swing state. if the obama campaign spent $100,000 on this ad buy, i would be surprised. they certainly don't have any real money behind it. this is meant to be a talker in the media and to send to their base and say see, mitt romney, he's being ridiculous. the danger when you do things like this, this close to an election is to your point, i got lots of republicans sending me the famous barack obama quote from 2008 about john mccain that he can't talk about big things in this election so he's trying to make it about small things. i don't think barack obama is trying to make this election about big bird. this seems a targeted strategy at a small group of people. at the
. it will be moderated by jim lehrer, host of pbs's "newshour." they'll have 15 minutes. ask a question, two minutes to respond. jake tapper pointed out on "world news." the president a little loquacious. one of his responses to jake was five minutes. got to cut that down a little bit. >> the media, we are guilty of this. we cover the horse race. we cover -- the one-liners or awkward moments. >> zingers. >> people watch -- i hope millions tune in to watch, they pay attention to the substance, how the two men differ in policies as opposed to who looked nervous, who had a little bit of sweat, who gave the quirky one-liner. >> check on the watch. >> yeah, hopefully people focus on the stuff that matters. we'll see. we'll see. >>> in pennsylvania big day today, there will be a vote on the voter i.d. law. it could still be appeared to the state supreme court here. we have seen that play out in different states around the country. virginia, ohio. so as just a few weeks out starting to see some of the judges take action one way or the other. how it is going to turn out. pennsylvania pay attention to that t
of it taken after. >>> starring big bird, produced after mitt romney declared he would cut funding for pbs during last week's debate. it is laced with sarcasm, casting the sesame street character as an evil corporate fiend. >> bernie madoff, ken lay, criminals, glutton of greed. and the evil genius who towered over them? one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird. big bird. big bird. >> it's me, big bird. >> a menace to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about. it's sesame street. >> i am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. >> mitt romney, taking on our enemies, no matter where they nest. >> campaign street says the recent campaign appearances eight mentions of big bird, five mentions of elmo, zero mentions of libya and zero plans to fix the economy, saying that the big bird references are small. every time that ad has been p y played this morning, everyone has erupted in laughter. >> that chart is not close -- >> that's very funny. very funny. john, thank you. >> you think he's sinister, big bird? >> looking. >> my son may disagree with you on th
's plan to cut funding for pbs. >> so, before you go, do you have any political statement you'd like to make? >> no. i don't want to ruffle any feathers. >> osgood: here's today's weather. massive cold canadian air is pushing temperatures down into the 50s as far south as texas. the panhandle might even see snow. tomorrow most of us will discover considerably warmer weather outside our doors. next. >> great to meet you. osgood: behind closed doors. and later... >> that's the house. reporter: pete,,,,,,,,,,,, -those other store cards... -...preferred shopper... ...club...things... ...kept sending me coupons for cat food. i'm just not a coupon clipper. i buy what i want to buy. can i get a reward for that? [ frank ] introducing something extra from raley's, bel air, and nob hill. you get something extra rewards... ...for the way i shop... for buying the things i like. instant offers, points balance, right here on my smart phone. [ frank ] join today at raley's dotcom, or at your store. ...it rewards you... for being you. [ frank ] raley's, bel air, and nob hill. for food, for family, a
that got thousands of people to post, one moment was this one. >> i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i actually like you, too, but i'm not going to keep spending on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> one of many things that had the twitter universe jumping on the site at one point, there were 17,000 tweets a minute for big bird, tells you about the power of twitter. joining us is jack dorsey the founder of twitter and ceo and co-founder of square. i know you're here to talk about how technology can add jobs to the economy, and what you can do with square but before we start off on that, we've been talking about twitter all morning long because it was really the way that everybody got all their feedback last night. could you see what people were thinking instantaneously do your own exit polls. did you ever imagine that when you came up and created twitter? >> well, the idea was always to be able to instantly see what the world was talking about and thinking and what was happening in the world and we saw very similar spike in 2008 with the pr
and pbs, community idea station. we want to say thanks again to the candidates for appearing together on the stage tonight. we heard a lot about social security, medicare. many of the issues voters of virginia are facing. we want to thank those voters and our live audience for taking part this evening. don't forget, election day is now less than a month away. on behalf of everyone who brought this debate to you, i'm bill fitzgerald. good night. >> c-span is bringing you live house, senate and governor's debates between now and november 6th, including tonight, live from charleston, west virginia, the debate for the state's governor. mr. tomlin won a 2010 special election against mr. maloney. coverage from west virginia starting at 7:00 p.m. tonight here on c-span. and we will have live road to the white house coverage, president obama campaigning in ohio. he will be at ohio state university in columbus at 5:00. we will have that live on c-span and follow that with your phone calls and reactions. >> look at what president obama did on the budget, nothing, except ro and spend. as a resul
. romney not making any friends with pbs, the station is also fighting back on romney's plan to cut its fund-raising. and that romney does not understand the value americans place on public broadcasting, and the return in its investment. the corporation gets about $450 million a year. that might sound like a lot but it is just 1% of the entire federal budget and works out to just about $1.35 per american. as for the winners of the debate, well that goes to republican fund-raising. romney's super pac restore our future is not giving out any specific amounts but they did say the day after the debate is the best day it has had the entire campaign. the national republican senor toal committee send an email praising romney's performance and asking for support. more coming up next. we'll be right back. ♪ viewer for capella university. matter. >> i wouldn't be where i am today if it wasn't for capella university. i go to work every day and know that i make a difference. when patients leave this office they have hope in their eyes. it make me feel like i'm really doing what
. that was at a romney rally. romney said he will cut federal funding for pbs, which airs sesame street. the rally was organized by the florida consumer action network. >>> early voting begins in california next week, and if you wants to get your vote in early, head though your county election office in the next few days. but don't forget, monday is columbus day, so the county offices should be closed. ballots for people voting by mail will be sent out tuesday when the post office reopens from the holiday. >>> how will you vote in you can take our quiz to help. you will find the presidential election quiz under the cover photo. >>> the candidates for vice president aren't the only oning preparer for the debate. danville will well come some 50,000 visitors, -- welcome some 50,000 visitor. >> it does enhance our community in many ways for restaurants, hotels, retail stores. >> we couldn't buy the type of publicity etch at any price, really, that we'll get. >> a local business electronicsed to provide debate merchandise says it can barely keep up with demand. danville will spend $100,000 to stage the
fallen to fox new to follow up. >> pbs news did a good job. it comes down to cheryl. >> she is a very good reporter and that is one phase of the story. that is the security and intelligence failure story. the intelligence story on a parallel track and the main stream media has done little. >> gretchen: and the administration is wanting that to happen until after the election. there will be a house committee hearing on capitol hill . people will be testifying like this american security officer lieutenant colonel andy wood who agreed to testify before the panel and talk about whether pleas for enhanced security were rebuffed by the statement was there enough security there . the second argument from brit hume was there a cover up here? >> brian: one name left out, cherylat kins and katherine is leading the charge along with jennifer griffin over there. it is note worthy, but the fact is, when you talk about foreign policy, everybody said don't touch that including his own advisors. wait a second. afghanistan is a mess. iraq we left too early and libya situation in the victory column is
at governor romney today over his plans to cut spending, specifically cut funding for pbs that would affect big bird. they have a new ad about it on today. >> bernie madoff, gut tons of greed and the evil genius to towered over him. one man has the guts to speak his name. >> big bird, big bird, big bird. >> it's me big bird. >> big yellow, a men as to our economy. mitt romney knows it's not wall street you have to worry about, it's sesame street. >> reporter: the republican national committee coming out with its own response, this graphic advertisement that quotes the count from sesame street saying that president obama since the doe bait has mentioned big bird eight times, elmo six times. the attack on benghazi zero times and zero times on fixing the economy. the president because he can't run on his record is talking about little things, so big bird is fairly tall, he's kind of bill o'reilly size. jenna: i think he's officially 8 to the 2, not bill o'reilly but big bird. just so we are at facts for the day, for what it's worth. we'll continue to watch the back and forth. jon: daily beast
war ii and eisenhower -- you are right. see one of my favorite clips is on pbs and the presidential, the american experience. there's a wonderful two-part documentary on dwight eisenhower and one of my favorite clips is eisenhower returning to uniform in 1951 and taking up his nato command and they show him exchanging a salute with a female officer. it is all business. in other words quite eisenhower does not see it as male/female. he is an officer and she is a superior offers are and they are exchanging. it's a very interesting picture selection. dwight eisenhower was somebody who come the closest i can come to that as he gave the commencement address. he was very proud of my sister, my three sisters and there were four of us grandchildren and he addressed the shipley school in the spring of 1967 and he was addressing these hemlines that were going up, the miniskirts. he said remember that ankles are always neat but needs arise now become something like this. he was not very moderate that he was somebody who loved people, male or female, he loved humanity and that really came throu
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